Hi,

Since an important contributor left us, we are in need of new volunteers to join the packaging team.

You need to have some experience in Slackware/Zenwalk packaging. Gnome users are welcomed.

Please feel free to contact us

Thanks
JP

No idea if its a offtopic.. but who left and why?

Hi,



gapan.

But why? :O

Everyone has their causes, things are like this now, let's just drop it

I will post a few new ideas in the following days

Please could you advertise about our need of new manpower ?

Cheers
JP

This Mailing-List post doesn't reflect the discussion we had on the dev forum, it didn't happened as described.

This is FUD from a frustrated contributor.

Sorry to tell it.

Now I have to move forward , with all the trouble that have been generated by him.

This is already behind us

JP

Then tell us how it was. So far we have only head George's site of the story.
The main thing is George was helpful to ordinary users and managed a lot of packages. Thus most people will feel it was a damn shame that he left. I do not have the insight to tell whether George's statements are "true" or "false". At the moment this mail from George is all we (think we) "know".
--Rasmus

Rasmus does have a point. Reading the archived mailing list and what JP has said showed that there are actually two different views on what has happened. If you, JP, are not willing to share your side of the story, we are only left with Gapan's side of the story. Just saying
Will not put an end to this. Maybe this is already behind "you"; however, as a democratic place, the use of "us" may not necessarily represent all of us who use ZW.

You may choose to ignore this, but what has been said, has been said and people are wondering and perhaps making guesses as to what has happened. Rather than let it perpetuate, you can put an end to this by offering us your side of the story.

I won't go into details, as I believe that this incident has generated enough fuzz in the project.

Gapan has provided a lot of energy to the project, building hundreds packages, ... he was very involved and helpful with the users, and this was great.

There were 3 main problems in this situation imho :
1) the amount of work he was handling had progressively become too much for only one person.
2) he was willing to change some features/designs and I often disagreed with him, which generated a lot of frustration for someone so involved.
3) his attitude wasn't always fair with me. His way to tell that something has to be improved (ie : in Netpkg) was : "you should drop it, it's bad software" rather than "I believe that you should fix this, improve that...", a kind of provocative attitude that had been reported by some other members of the development team. This is not really a problem, as long as this "trolling" relationship can be bidirectional : but he didn't accept when I was answering him that same way...

This kind of problem has already happened in the past of the project : smart contributors who can't stay because they have their own vision of what Zenwalk should be. Usually I have noticed that they start their own project a few weeks later.

I think that Gapan had already taken the decision to leave the project several months ago.

Now we have to move forward.

Friends will be friends

JP

I am sad that Gapan left. For what ever personal reason, plz work for the project. For Porject no personal attitudes should come up.

Zenwalk and we all gonna miss u r expertise gapan.. Best of luck..

You have forgotten to list me as one of these folks!

Why?

As I wrote, I'm now looking to the future, sorry

If you really were, you would learn some lessons from the past.