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 Post subject: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:36 am 
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Hi,

Zenwalk 8.0 release is very close : BETA2 is ready now !

Beta 2 fixes several minor bugs in Zenwalk "z" serie of packages, and also provide all beta2 bugfixes at Slackware level.

As requested by several testers : unprivileged user accounts creation dialog has been added to setup, prior the first X login (for those who don't know how, or just don't want to switch to tty2 to create users accounts before logging into X ;) ).

Also, some reviews let me think that I have to clear something about Zenwalk : Zenwalk ** IS ** and ** WANT TO BE ** a vanilla Slackware system with very few modifications at system level ! Zenwalk is not very much easier to install than Slackware : just easier to setup at desktop level (can save you hours, maybe more...).

You could download an original Slackware (or preferably buy a DVD at https://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store ), then install the set of Zenwalk packages ("z" serie) on it, then reboot : you would get "exactly" Zenwalk (without the 1 app/task cleanup).

Being simpler than BIG players, Slackware is already faster and more lightweight than most other Linux OS. You won't notice much differences between Zenwalk and Slackware : Zenwalk is just a little bit faster to boot - less services, optimized sysvinit ; and a little bit more responsive - fewer loaded libraries, no Qt (Qt is optional in Zenwalk).

Zenwalk is a small 1GB version of Slackware with many post-install configurations and tunings already done out of the box, with a ready to use polished desktop environment, some graphical system tools, and one application per task (in fact : back in the day in 2004, I like to remind that Zenwalk has been the first "modern" Linux distribution to provide the concept of 1 app/task...).

But it's still a Slackware system : for experienced Linux users, geeks, developers, power-users, people looking for performance, and everyone expecting a Linux system they can still understand... :p

Have fun !!
JP

download ISO here :
http://download.zenwalk.org/x86_64/8.0/ ... 0beta2.iso
http://zen-repo.meticul.eu/x86_64/8.0/z ... 0beta2.iso


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:56 am 
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Downloading right now,
i appreciate your effort !

edit: just realiZed i have been a Zenwalker for 10 years tomorrow!


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:08 am 
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great :)


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:46 pm 
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3 problems now, don't have time to troubleshoot...

*sshd does not start automatically, it is enabled and has execute permissions. it was run once in the postinstall to generate keys.

*qwerty-fi-latin1 keymap is not accepted in xfce, woks fine on the console.

*there does not seem to be a firewall, all ports open by default >:(


may be just this install.


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:49 pm 
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*sshd does not start automatically, it is enabled and has execute permissions. it was run once in the postinstall to generate keys.


please reinstall sysvinit-scripts from Slack current, don't forget to move rc.M.new to rc.M

tell me :)

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*fi-latin1 keymap is not accepted in xfce, woks fine on the console.


what do you mean by "not accepted"

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*there does not seem to be a firewall, all ports open by default >:(


There's a FW : iptables ;) you can try gufw (from extra)


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:24 pm 
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hyperion wrote:
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*sshd does not start automatically, it is enabled and has execute permissions. it was run once in the postinstall to generate keys.


please reinstall sysvinit-scripts from Slack current, don't forget to move rc.M.new to rc.M

tell me :)


yep, that worked !

hyperion wrote:
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*fi-latin1 keymap is not accepted in xfce, woks fine on the console.


what do you mean by "not accepted"


I use the tool in xfce to change keyboard layout, the chosen map is not used
i traced the error :
Code:
Loading /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/fi-latin1.map.gz
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
>Error: Can't find file "fi-latin1" for symbols include
Exiting
Abandoning symbols file "default"

i tried a few different layouts, and as it happens, the danish > qwerty/dk-latin1.map < works and does not produce an error from xkbcomp
hyperion wrote:
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*there does not seem to be a firewall, all ports open by default >:(


There's a FW : iptables ;) you can try gufw (from extra)

you could at least default to blocking all incoming except related as in previos Zenwalks.


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:31 pm 
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I'm going to see if I can add a few iptables rules.... :)

about the keymap issue : I can't reproduce it here. it works...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:31 pm 
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please test this ;)

http://download.zenwalk.org/x86_64/curr ... ch-1jp.txz

you just have to reboot

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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:49 am 
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exactly that ! very good

one bad rule ( says iptables )

in OUTPUT section,
Code:
/usr/sbin/iptables -t filter -D OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?)


but i think it works anyway


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:22 am 
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yes, thanks, it's a junk message, I fixed it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:06 pm 
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JP, looks very slick. I always try the new look and feel with every release, and then reset back to old Zen4, but this time I may actually keep this one!

However, I found that for the first time ever, I could not get the usual package installations work "out-of-the-box". Immediately after the blank install, I typically
Code:
netpkg netpkg
netpkg gfortran tetex xv-3.10a


Well, this time, no mirrors (in /etc/netpkg.conf) contain anything I need to even begin. Is this a consequence of it being a beta? Or am I misunderstanding the "package-level compatible" with Slackware?


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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:38 pm 
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thanks for testing :)

you have to select a mirror in netpkg :
- select download.zenwalk.org for zenwalk "z" packages
- select slack1.zenwalk.org for slackware standard packages (aka a ap l d n xap, etc...)
- select alien1.zenwalk.org for Bob's packages

if you use xnetpkg instead of netpkg cli : all 3 mirrors are selected simultaneously by default.

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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:59 pm 
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hyperion wrote:
thanks for testing :)

you have to select a mirror in netpkg :
- select download.zenwalk.org for zenwalk "z" packages
- select slack1.zenwalk.org for slackware standard packages (aka a ap l d n xap, etc...)
- select alien1.zenwalk.org for Bob's packages

if you use xnetpkg instead of netpkg cli : all 3 mirrors are selected simultaneously by default.

JP


Thanks for that. I guess I was not clear: I did go through the list of mirrors one by one, and not one of them had tetex, for example. The mirrors were active, though: I tried some other "standard" package (I forget what) and it found it without difficulty, and offered to install.

xnetpkg behaved in exactly the same way (and yes, I remembered the "load" button in the upper right corner after selecting each mirror in turn - made this mistake in the past).

In searching for "slackware scilab" I found this, and added it to the list of mirrors by hand: http://packages.slackonly.com/pub/packages/14.1-x86_64/. It has http://packages.slackonly.com/pub/packages/14.1-x86_64/academic/scilab/, but refreshing xnetpkg on that mirror, and searching for scilab yielded nothing.

The behaviour is consistent with netpkg finding but not parsing the PACKAGES.TXT correctly (I do not claim that this is what happened, just that this would explain it).

Oh, and I again had to touch the last mirror selected file in /etc, as it was not there. This really should be added to the postinstall script.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:45 pm 
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works great here (???)

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 Post subject: Re: Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:16 pm 
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indeed a parsing problem in netpkg cli, please try this modified one :

http://download.zenwalk.org/people/jp/Netpkg/netpkg

(put it chmod 755 in /usr/sbin)

should work

JP


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