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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL : nvidia module
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:30 pm 
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ZenLive 7.0 is up to now a nice experience.

Confirm that both ways (the install script provided on the iso and manually with 'extlinux') of putting ZenLive 7.0 on an usb-stick are OK.

Got only a problem with the nvidia module (nvidia-new-driver.lzm) in /optional together with home made modules in /modules. Could not reach X, got only a command line.
Code:
no screens found

How many home made modules are allowed? Is there any incompatibility between home made modules and the given ones. Anything special with that nvidia module?

Got the same problem on two different computers with nvidia card. Don't have the problem if I choose the standard video driver or if I don't use my home made modules.

Thank you for any hint.


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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Can you provide more details what "home made" modules you are using and how you created them and how you are tying to use it? Also please list ALL bootparameters you give on boot prompt to boot the system incl. your home made modules AND the nvidia driver.

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:22 pm 
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zenwalkuser wrote:
Can you provide more details what "home made" modules you are using and how you created them and how you are tying to use it? Also please list ALL bootparameters you give on boot prompt to boot the system incl. your home made modules AND the nvidia driver.

Thank you for reaction.

The way I create modules is the same since may years :
Code:
dir2lzm mydir mydir.lzm

And then copy the mydir.lzm module to '/live/media/boot/modules/' on the usb stick
The way of filling the 'mydir' directory is :
Code:
installpkg --root mydir my_needed_prog.txz


What home made modules? Programs I like to use such as gvim, mplayer, opera, skype and programming languages such as ruby and lua. Plus of course personal settings in .bashrc, .gvimrc, etc.

bootparameter :
Code:
label zenlive2
MENU LABEL Zenwalk Live (N^VIDIA)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz
append initrd=/boot/initrd.gz max_loop=256 vga=791 locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=us splash=silent include=nvidia-new-driver.lzm sli=yes useswap=yes copy2ram=no rootpw=ZenLive


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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:41 pm 
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Further ...

Got following error messages, which might help to tackle the problem
Code:
NVIDIA : could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error)
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Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 2:47 pm 
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try with this boot parameter line:

Code:
append initrd=/boot/initrd.gz max_loop=256 locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=us splash=none include=nvidia-new-driver.lzm sli=yes useswap=yes copy2ram=no rootpw=ZenLive

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:52 pm 
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zenwalkuser wrote:
try with this boot parameter line:

Code:
append initrd=/boot/initrd.gz max_loop=255 locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=us splash=none include=nvidia-new-driver.lzm sli=yes useswap=yes copy2ram=no rootpw=ZenLive

Thank you,

Same results as with with original cheat codes. Same error messages. No X, only command line.

Guess the problem is nvidia ...


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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:10 pm 
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Quote:
Guess the problem is nvidia ...

Am no longer sure. When I reduce the total number of modules (given and home made) to eight (8) there is no problem, everything is normal : I have X in nvidia.

So I guess now the number of the modules is the problem. Any hint on how to increase the number of modules allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:36 pm 
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I don't think the total number of modules is a problem as you have booted with boot parameter max_loop=255 means you can add up to 255 modules (!) in total.
I think it's more a problem of your hardware's RAM. Can you give some specification of this hardware, how much RAM, which graphic card, how much video RAM, shared or dedicated.

What you could try is booting with the parameters I mentioned above make sure vga option is NOT given and splash=none then when you get the error message, switch to TTY2, login as root, then do the following:

Code:
init 3
modprobe -r nvidia
rm -fr /etc/X11/xorg.conf
modprobe nvidia
/etc/rc.d/rc.nvidia
init 4


Hopefully that will start X. I experienced this problem for my customized ZenLive 6.4 but only when I boot with activated framebuffer needed for bootsplash, booting with no vga option and with deactivated bootsplash usually solves the problem. I tried to figure out what causes this but it happens sporadically and only on some hardware, so I could not figure out the reason for this.
Anyway I did not experienced this behaviour for ZenLive 7.0 so far.


P.S. It seems that with Kernel 2.6.38 the nouveau driver has been improved a lot, so hopefully for next ZenLive release we no longer need to rely on the proprietary nvidia driver. ;-)


P.P.S. Anbody has tested ZenLive 7.0 on a GeForce 310M? Does the driver shipped with ZenLive 7.0 propperly supports that integrated video card?

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:48 pm 
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zenwalkuser wrote:
Can you give some specification of this hardware, how much RAM, which graphic card, how much video RAM, shared or dedicated.
On this laptop : 2 GB of RAM, so memory should not be a problem.
Video card : nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600M GT] (rev a1)
How to determine how much video RAM, shared or dedicated?

Have still a stick having ZenLive 6.4 on it. It also has a nvidia module. Newer experienced any such problems.

Will try tomorrow the code you provide and let you know the results.

zenwalkuser wrote:
P.S. It seems that with Kernel 2.6.38 the nouveau driver has been improved a lot, so hopefully for next ZenLive release we no longer need to rely on the proprietary nvidia driver. ;-)
Let's hope. But for the time being I am using ZenLive 7.0 ...

Thank you very much for your time.


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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:01 am 
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zenwalkuser wrote:
What you could try is booting with the parameters I mentioned above make sure vga option is NOT given and splash=none then when you get the error message, switch to TTY2, login as root, then do the following:
Code:
init 3
modprobe -r nvidia
rm -fr /etc/X11/xorg.conf
modprobe nvidia
/etc/rc.d/rc.nvidia
init 4
Did as per your instructions. Result is I got the normal X (as with boot option 1) but in 800x600 resolution, not nvidia.
The commands didn't create any meaningful errormessages, except the last but one :
Code:
/etc/rc.d/rc.nvidia
No such file or directory

Discovered also that I can get up to 9 modules before getting into problems with nvidia.

Thank you for attention.


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