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 Post subject: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:15 am 
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ZenLive 7.0 FINAL has been released today and will be available from the official mirrors soon.
Thanks for all the testing and bug reports that helped a lot.



http://zenwalk.pinguix.com/user-account ... ve-7.0.iso
http://zenwalk.pinguix.com/user-account ... ve-7.0.md5

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:11 pm 
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I've just transferred Zenlive 7 final to an USB-stick using Unetbootin, and it seems to be working fine, even my rt2070 Wifi connected 'out of the box' , great!

Thanks for all the work you put into it,

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:48 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:49 pm 
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Blackbird wrote:
I've just transferred Zenlive 7 final to an USB-stick using Unetbootin, and it seems to be working fine,


You don't need Unetbootin and I don't recommend it! Zenlive comes with an installer script that can do both, installing ZenLive to HDD or transforming the live System into a bootable USB-stick. See the howto on the Zenlive desktop for more details. That is the official supported way to transform Zenlive to USB-stick.

The second way I'll support is the manual way: Just copy all the contents from the ISO to a ext2 formatted usb-stick, rename the isolinux folder to extlinux and the isolinux.cfg to extlinux.conf then installing extlinux bootloader.

Although Unetbooting might work I'll *NOT* support that officially in Zenlive and I would highly appreciate that people don't propose Unetbootin as the way to create the Zenlive USB version! We are not in the *ubuntu forum!
Zenwalk doesn't need external tools for such a purpose. :p

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 3:54 pm 
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Although Unetbooting might work I'll *NOT* support that officially in Zenlive and I would highly appreciate that people don't propose Unetbootin as the way to create the Zenlive USB version! We are not in the *ubuntu forum!


Sorry!

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:00 pm 
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You don't need to apologize, ther was no reason. I just wanted to mention, that there *IS* an installer script included that can handle transforming ZenLive-CD to USB-version and that that is the recommended way for ZenLive to create bootable USB-Live system.

Unetboot might be a great tool for beginners but I would like to stick with the "Zenwalk Way" where possible.

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:22 pm 
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Well, yes, I still regard myself as a beginner, so this was the only method I knew. I didn't want to burn a cd so I tried this. Now I will try the method you mentioned, thank you for explaining, I am trying to learn....

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:50 pm 
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So, is it possible to create a live USB if you've downloaded the new iso to a Linux PC (not Zenwalk based) that has no CD drive?

If so, please provide instructions on how to install a suitable bootloader - the instructions were clear up to that point ;)

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 2:35 am 
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i played with zenlive whole yesterday and it worked great, also I tried this easy script which transforms live xfce to live openbox
http://zenwalk.pinguix.com/user-account ... openbox.sh \!D/
You need to boot with rootpw=yourpw cheatcode and run this in init 3. It creates new user "openbox" at the end and that is what you use to login again.


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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:34 am 
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Stillborn,

That script of yours raises a number of interesting possibilities as all good scripts should ;)

If the files that you list in the wget section of your script are all that are required to swap between an XFCE-based and an openbox-based version of ZenLive 7.0, then the possibility exists of creating, in the future, a ZenLive 7.1 which could boot in either an XFCE or an openbox environment, depending on the desires of the user. The files required for openbox don't seem particularly large and firefox and thunderbird could be duplicated across both versions I presume, which would reduce the overhead. It will obviously require a fair amount of careful and cunning behind-the-scenes scripting to achieve this, but the end result IMHO would be well worth it. You would have ZenLive 7.1 with a choice of window managers, which would look really impressive and new.

In the short term, a couple of points. I presume that if you had the wget packages already loaded onto a USB stick then your script could be amended to reference the USB stick instead of the Web as the source of the packages and the resulting swap over would be therefore that much quicker. Not all of us are blessed with the fast download speeds of Finland and I would hate to have to do this a number of times to test out the openbox version. But downloading once onto a USB stick and then referencing the stick in future tests of the openbox version would not be a problem.

Of course, once you have your openbox version of ZenLive 7.0 up and running, you could use a command of the form (assuming I have the syntax correct)

Code:
build-slackware-live.sh --iso /live/media /<destination>/slackware-live-openbox.iso


to build your own copy of the openbox version of ZenLive 7.0. The slackware-live-openbox.iso file could then be written to CD and used for further testing. I haven't tested that set of options for the script but perhaps someone can give me a better version of it. The iso file could of course be written to the USB stick for later use or one could perhaps use the command, of the form

Code:
build-slackware-live.sh --usb /live/media /dev/<USB stick>


to produce a bootable USB stick version of ZenLive 7.0 for openbox \!D/

All in all, lots of very interesting scenarios are starting to open up with this release of ZenLive 7.0. Can I add my congratulations to zenwalkuser for creating such an exciting release. This is proving to be tremendous fun \!D/

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 Post subject: Re: ZenLive 7.0 FINAL released!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:46 am 
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Thank you very much for providing ZenLive 7.0 FINAL! Nice!!

zenwalkuser wrote:
The second way I'll support is the manual way: Just copy all the contents from the ISO to a ext2 formatted usb-stick, rename the isolinux folder to extlinux and the isolinux.cfg to extlinux.conf then installing extlinux bootloader.
Code:
Installing extlinux bootloader
Could you be more specific? How to install the extlinux bootloader on the usb-stick eg /dev/sdc1?

Thank you.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:31 pm 
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mprimrose wrote:
then the possibility exists of creating, in the future, a ZenLive 7.1 which could boot in either an XFCE or an openbox environment, depending on the desires of the user.


There is not enough space to fit on a 700MB CDR, you would need to use a DVD then it would work that way, you would need to work with exclude=module.lzm boot parameter to boot only openbox or only xfce version.


mprimrose wrote:
Of course, once you have your openbox version of ZenLive 7.0 up and running, you could use a command of the form (assuming I have the syntax correct)

Code:
build-slackware-live.sh --iso /live/media /<destination>/slackware-live-openbox.iso


to build your own copy of the openbox version of ZenLive 7.0.

Code:
build-slackware-live.sh --usb /live/media /dev/<USB stick>


to produce a bootable USB stick version of ZenLive 7.0 for openbox \!D/


If you boot with a ZenLive 7.0 standard ISO it will write back the original ZenLive as it is on the CD used for booting. ;P
Please read the SLS documentation for details.
AFAIK there is NO live clone functionality yet!
You could try (untested):

Code:
mkdir /tmp/zlopenbox
build-slackware-live.sh --initrd / /tmp/zlopenbox
build-slackware-live.sh --module /live/union /tmp/zlopenbox 01-zlopenbox.lzm
build-slackware-live.sh --iso /tmp/zlopenbox/ /tmp/slackware-live-openbox.iso


But I would NOT recommend that as creating a live-system from the running live-session is the quick and DIRTY way, you'll probably facing some troubles, believe me!
The better approach is:

Code:
mkdir /tmp/zlopenbox && lzm2dir /boot/modules/01-zenwalk.lzm /tmp/zlopenbox
ROOT=/tmp/zlopenbox removepkg package1 package2 ...
installpkg --root /tmp/zlopenbox  packageA packageB ...

do the modification like user adjustment etc, then recreate the livemodul

Code:
dir2lzm /tmp/zlopenbox /tmp/01-zlopenbox.lzm

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:35 pm 
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mzee wrote:
Could you be more specific? How to install the extlinux bootloader on the usb-stick eg /dev/sdc1?

man extlinux

AGAIN, READ the Documentation and SEARCH the web, I don't like it to answer same questions where the answer to it can be easily found if someone just TRYS to find it!

EXAMPLE:
Code:
mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1/
extlinux --install /mnt/sdc1/boot/extlinux
umount /mnt/sdc1
cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdc

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:41 pm 
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zenwalkuser wrote:
mzee wrote:
Could you be more specific? How to install the extlinux bootloader on the usb-stick eg /dev/sdc1?

man extlinux

AGAIN, READ the Documeintation and SEARCH the web, I don't like it to answer same questions where the answer to it can be easily found if someone just TRYS to find it!
Please don't get angry even when you are sure you have the right to do so.
I have been reading the manual pages. Even have been looking on the internet for more info. What I got from the man pages on ZenLive 7.0 is this
Code:
 extlinux --install /mnt
Moreover the info from the man pages not up to date: "Support for ext4 and btrfs were added in version 4 of extlinux"

Wish to thank you for your example which is complete and clear.
zenwalkuser wrote:
EXAMPLE:
Code:
mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1/
extlinux --install /mnt/sdc1/boot/extlinux
umount /mnt/sdc1
cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdc


Thank you very much. And kindly share your knowledge / wisdom with others ...


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:01 pm 
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This is the first hit you got when searching the web for keywords "extlinux howto"

http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/EXTLINUX

thats the 3rd hit:

http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=vi ... ntID=11126


Both explain that very well, so I somehow have the feeling you haven't searched at all and just expecting others to do your homework!
If the requested information has been discussed several times and can easily found, it's a waste of time to explain it again.
We are not in the Ubuntu forum!
I already pointed you in the right direction, you should be able to find the answers then and that's the best way to lean and finaly UNDERSTAND things. No offense. ;)


BTW: ext4 and btrf support is out of scope as we are talking about an ext2 partition!

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