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 Post subject: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:45 am 
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Whats the status on Zenserver? Will there be a 0.6 release soon?

I will be testing Zenserver 0.5 now but need to know about the future for Zenserver?


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:02 am 
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Sadly it's not being maintained any longer, but I'm sure the Zenwalk devs would love to see someone take it over! Have to say I would love to see it with fresh stuff and further developed, but I don't have the expertise to undertake such a project.

Consider this a call to anyone out there willing to take it on!


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:09 pm 

You can always install zenwalk core and then add the server packages you need. Zenserver wasn't really much more than that anyway.


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:43 pm 
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Not nice gapan :). Sega01 put a lot of work in it and I know a lot of people liked Zenserver because it provided a trimmed server environment, and he also integrated grsecurity into the kernel. It's a bit easy to say it was just a clone.


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:02 pm 
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gapan wrote:
You can always install zenwalk core and then add the server packages you need. Zenserver wasn't really much more than that anyway.


*Ahem*

Zenserver was quite a bit different than Zenwalk Core with some server packages. It had (hackish, I admit) frontends for Lighttpd, MySQL, and lots of other goodies. The kernel was quite different with the Grsecurity patch, and I had to rebuild a lot of stuff without X libraries. Netpkg was modified some, but the toolchain and many things did stay the same. I thought that Zenserver was quite reasonable for the time (for certain usage, anyways), but you can say whatever you want about its quality. However, Zenserver is simply not just Zenwalk Core with server packages :-).

Back to the topic, Zenserver was deprecated quite sometime ago, there won't be a 0.6 or 1.0 released by me. I've been spending my time on a Arch Linux fork for ages; finally getting 0.2 out the door in (hopefully) seven days. If someone does pick up the project, I request that it be called "Zenwalk Server" or something other than "Zenserver".

Cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:11 pm 

Sorry, especially sega01, didn't mean to offend anyone, it came out a bit wrong. :)

You had done a great job with creating a server specific kernel, which you won't get with a zenwalk core installation, your frontends made everything simpler and I always believed your netpkg improvements should enter netpkg standard anyway. ;)

What I meant was something like: you can now get the same functionality, more or less, with zenwalk core + server packages.


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:01 pm 
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Hehe, no problem. Sorry if my reply was a little rude.

But yes, it wouldn't be hard to get the same functionality with Zenwalk Core and some server packages.

Cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:01 am 
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So Sega, u moved to Arch yea....Too sad and bad.. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:38 pm 
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No he did not. He uses pacman as his package management, for his own fork. That's a difference ;).


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:20 pm 
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Hi sega,

i'm new to this forum, cause in past i has no interest in publishing anythin, but i was real impressed about zenserver 0.5!
and in fact i was working on linux since kernel pre1.0 and bsd since NetBSD1.1, but was real sad about the fact that zenserver got no maintainer anymore, so i was in thinking of a try to make it. i work ass freelancer on communication & prozessautomatisation, so at first i would only hold it up to date, and would try to fix what i can, got support of a friend of me, cause i only programming C/C++ and shell (he's mostly working with php & lua). will not pray something that didn't working, but i'm real sad about the most linux-distributions (too fat and overload) and working on Zenwalk since MiniSlack 1.1. sorry for my english, my language is german ;), and in last years not often to use it, hope you not to blame you

greetings by onnlein

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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:18 pm 
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onnlein wrote:
Hi sega,

i'm new to this forum, cause in past i has no interest in publishing anythin, but i was real impressed about zenserver 0.5!
and in fact i was working on linux since kernel pre1.0 and bsd since NetBSD1.1, but was real sad about the fact that zenserver got no maintainer anymore, so i was in thinking of a try to make it. i work ass freelancer on communication & prozessautomatisation, so at first i would only hold it up to date, and would try to fix what i can, got support of a friend of me, cause i only programming C/C++ and shell (he's mostly working with php & lua). will not pray something that didn't working, but i'm real sad about the most linux-distributions (too fat and overload) and working on Zenwalk since MiniSlack 1.1. sorry for my english, my language is german ;), and in last years not often to use it, hope you not to blame you

greetings by onnlein


Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. You can certainly work on Zenserver if you would like; as it is released under the GPL :-). You would have to show your progress to the Zenwalk developers to see if it could be an "official" Zenwalk derivative though (but I'm sure they would be delighted). I'd recommend starting with Zenwalk Core and introducing some of Zenserver's buildscripts and changes to it. Unfortunately, I have no buildscripts other than what exists in /usr/src on a Zenserver install.

Thanks for the interest :-).

Cheers,
sega01


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 Post subject: Re: Next release!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:39 pm 
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I recently found an interesting server distro based on Zenwalk called SLAMPP. It might be worth a look for Zenserver enthusiasts.
http://slampp.abangadek.com


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