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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:42 am 
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Your internet issue likely rests with the Nic. Try the "dmfe" module. In the control panel (it will ask for root password) you'll find "kernel modules", scroll down to "net" and then activate dmfe. The card is probably using the "tulip" mod which is broken with that particular hardware.You will need to restart.


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:15 am 
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I think mistergil is right
Take a look to this post
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/48026
Probably in Zenwalk you can use
control panel/kernel modules/net
uncheck tulip, if is not check check dmfe save and reboot
or just try
rmmod tulip
rmmod dmfe
modprope dmfe
as you find in the post


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:01 am 
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i've tried putting the check to dmfe and checking also save for next reboot, but the problem is still there after reboot. Maybe i do something wrong?

i've also tried following the steps:
rmmod tulip
rmmod dmfe
modprope dmfe

but with the first command it says: Module tulip does not exist in /proc/modules
i followed the other commands but nothing changed

EDIT: i found other topics on the net about this issue but couldn't find a real answer. i think there's a bug in the dmfe driver as said here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/435244

i suppose this can't be fixed. what i can't understand is why it works with Puppy....


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:23 am 
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Can you try to delete in /etc/wicd "wired-settings.conf" and reboot.
Whit dmfe checked and tulip unchecked in kernel modules.
Sometimes there is an old configuration that create problems.
Please check whit LSHW ...ethernet interface
And look if there is a logical name and if doesn't show messages as
not detected etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:51 am 
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tried doing what you suggested, no luck

here's the lshw log, network part:
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
product: 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet
vendor: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc.
physical id: e
bus info: pci@0000:00:0e.0
logical name: eth0
version: 31
serial: 00:80:ad:07:94:23
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=dmfe driverversion=1.36.4 latency=32 link=no maxlatency=40 mingnt=20 multicast=yes
resources: irq:11 ioport:a800(size=256) memory:f6800000-f68000ff memory:c000000-c03ffff(prefetchable)


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:43 pm 
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I don't understand
*-network DISABLED
Try whit tulip and dmfe both enabled in kernel modules as mistergil suggested.
Hope is my mistake and I beg your pardon.
Here are other two posts
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=102235
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthrea ... 1&t=133530
Read always LSHW


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:57 pm 
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wow, this really gives me hope ;D : 1st discussion -> ended with buying another card
2nd -> no answer at all

i tried activating both.... nothing again
i activated only tulip and now the status has changed from DISABLED
to UNCLAIMED

it sounds worse than diasbled

however i appreciate your help, you do not owe nothing to me so don't apologize

still D!! D!! D!!


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:28 pm 
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All may not be lost. If you can run puppy live and set up the internet connection there, the dialog box in puppy's connection wizard will tell you what mod it is using then you can make the appropriate change within Zenwalk. I had to do this to get an Intel card to work.

If you are running two cards you may need to go into the bios and name the one you wish to use disabling the other. Also my Intel display controller is "unclaimed" but everything is still functioning normally.


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:20 am 
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Hi,
I happen to have two networkcards, the one I don't use (which happens to be the 'onboard' one) was mentioned as 'disabled' by lshw, and indeed, it didn't work. Couldn't find anything in the bios, and under Windows it did work, so nothing wrong with the card. All I did then was under the preferences of WICD change eth0 to eth1, and hey, I had internet. (and it is no longer mentioned as disabled) I remembered doing the same trick with the USB-wireless card of a notebook, Wicd kept wanting to use the one of the notebook itself, which was broken. What I am tying to say is it seems it doesn't seem to matter if there are more cards, but Wicd wants to know which one to use. Perhaps your new card would work, but just change the preferences?

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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:31 pm 
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hey,slow down: :D i don't want to buy any new card as it perfectly works with windows or puppy

Zenwalk is very userfriendly (you know, all those popups that explain the functions, a control panel for configuration, the ability to show the "start" label for the start button, something that windows addicted "poor" people need) if it was to me i would have left Puppy. However Zen is a nice discovery

EDIT: good news it works now!! searched on google and found some similar cases
what i did in order (don't know exactly what was the solution):

-unchecked both tulip and dmfe from kernel configuration, restarted

-commands:
modprobe tulip options=5
modprobe dmfe

-went to wicd and named the wired connection "eth0" and set to "show always"
rebooted -> no connection again (infact modprobe is not permanent command)

-went to kernel configuration and enabled only dmfe, checking also "save for next reboot"
WORKED!

I suppose modprobe dmfe does the same thing as enabling dmfe from the panel

thank you all for you help

---->>> Now i have some other annoyances to solve, one in particular:

how to change the first OS in lilo at boot? windows is the first line and Zenwalk is the second one: i'd like Zen to boot automatically

then the remaining questions will come, don't worry ;D


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:46 pm 
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Well, congratulations! Sorry about the two cards bit, I misunderstood, it was the discussion you were referring to, I thought you'd also bought another one.....
About the boot question, you have to edit (as root) the /etc/lilo.conf file. The 5 (or so) lines starting with '# windows bootable partition config begins' to '# windows bootable partition config ends' should be after the Zenwalk part. So the windows and Zenwalk lines have to change places.

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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:28 pm 
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Oops, forgot something... After editing lilo.conf you have to run lilo from terminal to make it accept the changes......

Blackbird


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:54 pm 
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emaeee wrote:
1) i frequently use(d) Hibernation on windows. Here when i select the button it becomes black, seems to shutdown but instead returns to the desktop. What's wrong?

Just ran across this one again myself.
check /var/run/pm-utils/locks/ and if there is a lock file there then delete it.
If that doesn't solve the issue, have a look in /var/log/pm-suspend.log and see if there's anything that fails.


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Blackbird wrote:
Oops, forgot something... After editing lilo.conf you have to run lilo from terminal to make it accept the changes......

Blackbird


tried to put the lines regarding windows after the ones regarding lilo but it the boot order is still the same

then i tried running "lilo" command from console but it does't say anything related to the configuration

some suggestions from other forums say to modify the "default = xxxx" line, but in my lilo.conf file there's not such line

EDIT:

solved by adding the line "default=Zenwalk" before the lines about the 2 OSs

I have more questions, should i create a new discussion?

for example i can't find where to download Firefox, i cannot find it in the package database
and i'd like to autologin in root account (in the logon panel this option is forbidden!!)


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 Post subject: Re: Some (MANY!) questions from a new user!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:59 pm 
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Zenwalk uses IceCat, to the end user it is firefox. so no need to find, you have it already
read another recent post : viewtopic.php?f=46&t=28715


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