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 Post subject: [SOLVED] gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:03 am 
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I seem to be having a problem with the original gaim that came with this distro and gaim2 beta2.  When I try to message someone, or sign onto irc, it crashes.  Before I installed the nVidia graphics accelerator and NForce driver, it was fine.  Hmm...  Now that I think about it, I also installed Nforce's network driver....  How do I go about removing that?


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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:10 am 
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The drivers you installed are kernel modules. You can remove them as root with
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# rmmod [module name]


As a general note: I understand you want 3D acceleration, but upgrading your network driver... I dunno. Even if the nForce2 networking driver ('forcedeth') is marked as 'experimental' in the kernel,it is really stable. As the saying goes: never change a winning team ;).

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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:30 am 
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Well before I checked here, I did a full installation (hey, it only takes 10 minutes).  Then I redid everything, and installed nvidia again, but not nforce.  I got the same thing.  Gaim kept crashing.

So then I tried to do the rmmod nvidia as root, after changing to runlevel 3.  Then I reboot, and I get the nVidia splash screen, which isn't a good sign now.  I try to run gaim, and again it crashes.

Could it possibly be because of how I'm installing it?  This is what I do:
Code:
$ su
Password:
# telinit 3
# links http://nvidia.com/object/linux
I should probably just memorize the direct url so I can use wget instead...  Anyway, I then navigate to the script, download it, and then do this:
Code:
# sh NVIDIA*.run
Accept user agreement, yes build the module for me, yes change the configurations for me, and then it finishes.  And then I do this:
Code:
# telinit 5
Then it just kinda hangs there.  So after maybe 30 seconds, I do the Ctrl+Alt+Delete to reboot.  Am I interrupting anything by doing that?  That's actually how it went with removing the module as well.  I do the rmmod thing, and then telinit 5, but it just hangs there.  So I did the Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Could this actually do with the fact that I'm also backing up gaim's stuff from all my other linux distros?  Gaim came from Ubuntu 5.10, and then went to ZenWalk 2.2, then to Foresight, FC5, and then finally back to ZenWalk 2.2.  I know different distros like to change some things in the programs and how they use the configurations, but it shouldn't be that much.  Plus I've always installed gaim 2 beta 2 over the current gaim installation in ever distro I used.


Edited

Just deleted the gaim user configuration files in my home directory and tried booting up gaim again.  I tried iming a friend of mine, and once again it crashed.  So it can't be because of the switching between distros or anything like that.


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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:44 am 
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Why don't you leave the nvidia 3D out for a change, and see how it works?

Also, if you want to get anything useful out of Gaim, run it from a terminal. When it crashes, you will see a load of messages... They could give you a clue about what's going on.

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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:06 am 
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I don't remember the correct term...  I'll just have to explain it.  Without the accelerator, it doesn't look like it's been double buffered correctly.  Typically things requiring the x-server run slightly slower too such as the screensaver and games.  In some distros, such as FC5, having the graphics accelerator is crucial.  Without it, the whole thing lags like hell.  At least that's been my experience.

I've done rmmod a few times, but it's not removing, so I might have to re-install a third time today.  At least installation time is only 10 minutes.  If I were in Gentoo, I'd switch to a different hdd temporarily for my workstation, while I fixed the hdd with Gentoo on it using a different computer.

Anyway, running gaim from terminal returned this after the crash:
Code:
Creating link /home/Berticus/.kde/socket-localhost.
can't create mcop directory
by the way, I named the machine localhost since I've had an issue with mysql using the machine name instead of localhost, which caused some problems when I tried to automatically boot up mysql or even start it manually.  Also caused problems with installing phpMyAdmin.


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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:46 am 
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Do you use sound with your gaim Berticus? And I presume you're running as a normal user.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:04 am 
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yes to both.


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 Post subject: Re: gaim crashes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:26 am 
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Try disabling the sound in Gaim and see how it works out.

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 Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] gaim crashes
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:37 am 
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Thanks that worked.


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