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 Post subject: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:32 am 
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I have been reading on Zenwalk and I now am considering installing it on 3 machines

A. Desktop: Athlon 3200+/1Ghz Ram/Ati X800 XT
currently Dual Boot SUSE 10.0 (Internet/office) and XP (games)

B. Web Server: Celeron 1.8Ghz/512 Ram/Intel 945GL
currently SUSE 10.0 running Xampp

C. Laptop: Athlon 2400+/512 Ram/ATI IGP 320/wifi card DWL-G650 (Atheros)
currently Dual boot xubuntu and XP (Internet, office, music and videos)

I will probably start by installing Zenwalk on the server, I know SuSE is not the best choice for the server, it's KDE heavy and has lot's of applications I don't need, I know I could install xfce and uninstall the unecessary applications but I'd rather use a lighter distribution designed with xfce in mind, like Zenwalk :)
I actually originally installed Debian and manualy installed apache/php/mysql/phpmyadmin, and it was working ok but I broke it after installing webmin with some modules, so in frustration I went the easy way and installed SUSE and Xampp.
Which brings me to my first questions:
1. Is the Zenwalk LAMP package an actual complete package like xampp or will I need to install amd configure Apache/php/mysql separately?
2. Is there an SU File manager for Zenwalk like SUSE has?

And more questions
3. Does Zenwalk include Java? I need it to run OmegaT
4. I couldn't get the wifi card to work in SUSE on the laptop, but it worked out of the box with ubuntu just had to enable it, would this howto for slackware work to get it running on Zenwalk (word for word)?

Oh and one last question, not strickly Zenwalk related, I am planning to dual boot SUSE/Zenwalk on the server until I am familiar with Zenwalk, I believe Zenwalk is using Lilo but SuSE is using Grub, so how would that work? would zenwalk install Lilo over Grub and automaticaly keep the SUSE entries?


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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:32 pm 
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i can answer only the ultimate question
Zen install lilo of course..if u don't like lilo..just remember not to install during installation and remember to configure grub for the new image..
Really i cannot understand so much O.S,very different,when u can do everything with only one at your choice..
But this is only my opinion(game,video,audio,server,office..u can do all with linux..;))
i agree with u when you said " full kde is bad for suse",yes..it brings many unusefull programs..maybe you can disinstall enterely the kde and install a xfce desktop..But remember that almost 60% of linux server run under Suse,and the rest under debian or red hat..;)..so suse starts from server..and then becomes a desktop system..lol
Zen has a super user file manager,and starts with greatful Thunar app.
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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:52 pm 

Divilinux wrote:
But remember that almost 60% of linux server run under Suse,and the rest under debian or red hat..;)..so suse starts from server..and then becomes a desktop system..lol


According to the netcraft Linux server statistics[1] SuSE is the fourth popular server distro with about 10% share. The most popular distribution for web hosting is RedHat (~ 34%) followed by Debian (25%). ;)

[1] http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/ ... ebian.html


  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:46 pm 
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:o..i'm out of date...sorry
i've always read that Novell is the bigger company that provide server solutions..:)

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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:00 pm 
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Just answering Q no. 1:

I'm running zenwalk core 2.0.1, with the XAMPP-package, and it's working excellent.
The really nice thing about it is it's all 'self-contained', all apps, deps, modules, configuration etc. recides in the lampp directory.
XAMPP's default install goes to /opt/lampp, and all configs inside assumes this, but I keep my installation inside /home/lampp, and upon system reinstall/upgrade all I have to do is create a symlink /opt/lampp that points to /home/lampp and everything is back up running again complete with all vhosts, databases etc.
Couldn't be better!

Hope this helps you a little bit along the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:51 pm 
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Thanks guys, most helpfull.

Yeah can't get rid of XP just yet, need it to run Oblivion and Sims 2 (for my wife)
Still on the laptop as wll because I couldn't find a cross-stiching linux application (wife again)

Couple questions left:
1. Is the Zenwalk LAMP package an actual complete package like xampp or will I need to install amd configure Apache/php/mysql separately?
3. Does Zenwalk include Java? I need it to run OmegaT
4. I couldn't get the wifi card to work in SUSE on the laptop, but it worked out of the box with ubuntu just had to enable it, would this howto for slackware work to get it running on Zenwalk (word for word)?


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 Post subject: Re: Couple of questions before installing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:58 pm 
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1. Xampp is definitely easier to get up and running, I use it also, with Ruby on Rails on all 4 of my Zenwalk Installs.  Here is a tutorial on setting up the zw apache, php, and mysql. http://support.zenwalk.org/index.php?topic=111.0

3. dunno :P

4. It may not be as quick and easy as that.  It all depends on the wifi chipset.  If you're running a broadcom chipset, it will be more difficult.  If its an intel chipset, should be too tough. (yes Borromini I'm still gonna write that tutorial... :P )


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